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, behind those gaets now, pope emeritus, the former joseph ratzinger and we have the seat is vacant. the seat of peter is now vacant. father bartuni krc, your feelin? >> the feelings i've had all day. i'm feeming more. bitt bittersweet. nice to see how the decision of the pope is taken by the catholic faithful throughout the world. following what he believes to be the good for the church and many of us have come to really love him and respect him. and so, you really feel it. i mean, at this moment. well, there you go. at the same time, when you see the -- when you see the swiss guards kind of ending their duty for the time being, i can't help but thinking of the whole history of the papacy. they're a personal guard of the pope because the pope is attacked before. the vatican has been attacked in the 20 centuries of church. even though there's surprises in the past, the schurch is still here and god is still working through the church and so i feel a lot of hope, as well. kind of excitement about what might -- what the next couple of weeks might bring. >> we see the three men outside
it's going to be a moment of pivot. i think it's probably planned. i think benedict, joseph ratzinger wanted to be pope last team. he planned to do it. he gave a mark anthony speech. we all heard it during the funeral, which we covered last time. it looks to me like basically he has a 67 voters, majority of voters, in the college of cardinals that he has appointed personally. i think they'll be watching who he wants. if he wants this fellow skoela, he is going to get him. >> it's not the ora of the papacy itself, and you, i think rightfully so, say that the decision could open up a period of soul-searching in the catholic church has, in fact, badly needed. >> right. that point about the most modern thing he did is a quote from michael sean winters, a very smart watcher and student of the catholic church. you know, i was listening to chris, and i think he has the politics broadly right, but this is kind of macciavelli versus the holy spirit here. >> which one? >> exactly. >> i don't represent the holy spirit. i just want to say those are the two views. because he is right. skola is the
've understood that pope benedict the xvi, joseph ratzinger, soon to be pope emeritus is incredibly sensitive and kurt tee just an courteous. people have come to appreciate and feel for him maybe more than they had during the years of his pontificate, jon. jon: as the helicopter prepares to liftoff let's listen to the peeling of the church bells as this pope prepares to say goodbye. [bells ringing ] jon: what a view, when the last pope resigned 600 years ago he didn't depart by helicopter as bill herm pointed out. we have air to air shots covering every move of the current pope east spends his last couple of hours in office heading to a temporary retirement in castle gandolfo a few miles from rome and eventually back to the vatican at well a convent apartment that is being renovated for him now. jenna: the ride itself, the helicopter trip between the vatican and castle gandolfo is supposed to take 15 minutes or so. what a trip it is, by the images we have of the land of rome, quite moving images whether you're watching it from this point of view or in side the helicopter as well. we have a se
. >> joseph ratzinger, matt, in 2005, was one of only two cardinals who had participated in the papal elections. the two elections of 1978. he knows exactly what the purchas burden of responsibility is that these men are taking on themselves. he knows the conflicting emotions that many of them have. some of which greg and father baron have just described. i think he was saying to them, look, i know how you feel. and i am going to be with you in solidarity and in prayer over the next several weeks. of what is going to be a difficult test. >> at the same time, he has made clear, he does not want to exert undue influence on the process. this is not somebody who's behind the scenes twisting arms saying this should be the next pope? absolutely not, savannah. he is going to disappear. we're not going to see this man for months. he's too much a respecter of the process. he's too much of a respecter of his brother cardinals. and he's too, frankly, humble a human being to try to monkey in any way whatsoever with the selection of his successor. >> matt? >> yeah, i was curious, though, and fathe
not the savior. there's only one savior, jesus christ. >> i didn't know. >> joseph ratzinger, cardinal ratzinger then was 78 years old when he got this job and was actually looking at retirement. he was ready to step down. >> right. >> but obviously the vatican calls -- >> he was moving to boca. hey, how do you know, mika brzezinski, that your church, the catholic church, is in serious, serious trouble? >> how? >> when mike barnicle is speaking. when he becomes -- >> when i'm at the pope desk. >> when he's at the pope desk. where is pat buchanan? hey, somebody call pat buchanan and wake him up. what's up next? >>> well, we're going to talk about the state of the union next. coming up, deputy majority whip congressman tom cole will join us. also former deputy campaign manager for the obama campaign, stephanie cutter will be here to preview the president's state of the union address. and later, we'll talk to nbc news chief white house correspondent, chuck todd. and "new york times" columnist gail collins. and in just a few minutes, sports columnist for the "new york daily news," mike lupica joins
that it was joseph ratzinger, the new pope, i was on the first plane to bavaria to do the story about this new man's life, this new pope's life. anyway, yes, it was emotional. we heard him speaking english, which was interesting because we're used to hearing him speak primarily in italian. it was clear from today's general audience, it was a different speech. normally it's a catechism. this was really a reflection on his decision and his thanks to the people who supported him and to the faithful who accepted his decision to step down from his post. very unusual moment and historic moment in that people generally don't get chance to say farewell to a pope. a pope passes on and then another one is elected. so this was a very special moment and he clearly was emotional and spoke about how his time as pope had been full of joy, but also full of difficult moments and i think we can read into that in many ways. but he said most importantly that they never felt alone, that he felt he was asked to do this job. he didn't seek it out. and he was guided the entire time. now the clock is ticking. this was his
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